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		<title>By: tommy</title>
		<link>http://planetsave.com/2010/01/25/asian-carp-near-great-lakes-are-they-so-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-109769</link>
		<dc:creator>tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 17:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say I enjoyed the post.  You have really put a lot of time into your article and it is just great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say I enjoyed the post.  You have really put a lot of time into your article and it is just great!</p>
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		<title>By: Asian carp and the Great Lakes fishery: How much is at risk? &#124; Great Lakes Echo</title>
		<link>http://planetsave.com/2010/01/25/asian-carp-near-great-lakes-are-they-so-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-97247</link>
		<dc:creator>Asian carp and the Great Lakes fishery: How much is at risk? &#124; Great Lakes Echo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lake Michigan threaten the Great Lakes&#8217; $4.5 billion sport fishery as Dave Dempsey writes on the Internet magazine Planetsave? Or is it the $7 billion sport fishery that Douglas Belkin reports in the Wall Street [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lake Michigan threaten the Great Lakes&#8217; $4.5 billion sport fishery as Dave Dempsey writes on the Internet magazine Planetsave? Or is it the $7 billion sport fishery that Douglas Belkin reports in the Wall Street [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Asian Carp Near Great Lakes: Are They So Bad? - Wildlife Gardeners - North American Wildlife Gardening</title>
		<link>http://planetsave.com/2010/01/25/asian-carp-near-great-lakes-are-they-so-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-94505</link>
		<dc:creator>Asian Carp Near Great Lakes: Are They So Bad? - Wildlife Gardeners - North American Wildlife Gardening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carp Near Great Lakes: Are They So Bad? Written by Dave Dempsey Published on January 25th, 2010  Asian Carp Near Great Lakes: Are They So Bad? : Planetsave excerpts from above:  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carp Near Great Lakes: Are They So Bad? Written by Dave Dempsey Published on January 25th, 2010  Asian Carp Near Great Lakes: Are They So Bad? : Planetsave excerpts from above:  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JohnG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, invasive species are bad.  Invasive species are one of the main threats to biodiversity worldwide, right up there with habitat loss, pollution and over-harvesting.  If you don&#039;t mind the loss of native species and the resulting simplified ecosystem made up of only a few exotics, then maybe you don&#039;t think invasives are so bad.  

But seriously, they are.  From economics to aesthetics to ecology, they cause a lot of real harm, and we do need to address the problems they pose aggressively, not to mention trying to prevent the introduction of new exotics in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, invasive species are bad.  Invasive species are one of the main threats to biodiversity worldwide, right up there with habitat loss, pollution and over-harvesting.  If you don&#8217;t mind the loss of native species and the resulting simplified ecosystem made up of only a few exotics, then maybe you don&#8217;t think invasives are so bad.  </p>
<p>But seriously, they are.  From economics to aesthetics to ecology, they cause a lot of real harm, and we do need to address the problems they pose aggressively, not to mention trying to prevent the introduction of new exotics in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Keim</title>
		<link>http://planetsave.com/2010/01/25/asian-carp-near-great-lakes-are-they-so-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-93726</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Keim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole equivalence-of-ecosystems argument is a load of $@&amp;! wrapped around a kernel of truth. They remind me of the dumbest sort of moral relativism: &quot;All value judgements are equivalent, because values are arbitrary.&quot;

It&#039;s true that pristine, untouched ecosystems are, at this point, mythology. It&#039;s also true that &quot;good&quot; and &quot;bad&quot; are human terms. And — so what? Who cares? Would Greg Breining — who, I suspect, is irresponsibly mischaracterizing Mark Davis&#039; philosophy — care to argue that Lake Michigan would be perfectly lovely if all its fish died, and all that lived there was bacteria and algae and inedible mussels? 

Some people think the rich, complex web of life now supported by Lake Michigan is a special thing. It&#039;s also a very profitable thing. And anyone who doesn&#039;t understand this should enjoy spending their summer evenings in a drainage ditch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole equivalence-of-ecosystems argument is a load of $@&amp;! wrapped around a kernel of truth. They remind me of the dumbest sort of moral relativism: &#8220;All value judgements are equivalent, because values are arbitrary.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that pristine, untouched ecosystems are, at this point, mythology. It&#8217;s also true that &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;bad&#8221; are human terms. And — so what? Who cares? Would Greg Breining — who, I suspect, is irresponsibly mischaracterizing Mark Davis&#8217; philosophy — care to argue that Lake Michigan would be perfectly lovely if all its fish died, and all that lived there was bacteria and algae and inedible mussels? </p>
<p>Some people think the rich, complex web of life now supported by Lake Michigan is a special thing. It&#8217;s also a very profitable thing. And anyone who doesn&#8217;t understand this should enjoy spending their summer evenings in a drainage ditch.</p>
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		<title>By: Asian Carp Near Great Lakes: Are They So Bad? &#124; Great Lakes Echo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asian Carp Near Great Lakes: Are They So Bad? &#124; Great Lakes Echo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of a “healthy ecosystem” is valid and whether so-called invasive species are often a bad thing. More   Share [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Asian Carp Near Great Lakes: Are They So Bad? &#171; Green Commentaries Around the Web</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Don Mitchel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Mitchel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Administration ran on a platform to go green, but they seem to have a policy of only worrying about water restoration, not prevention of problems such as ballast water. Other than the commander and chiefs purposed two decade plan, drawn up by the Coast Guard that mirrors an international organization of foreign sea captains, foreign countries, and foreign companies who have a terrible track record, we have nothing. To address the polluted water trail and carbon footprint of international shipping moving fossil fuels and consumer goods, the president would need to be bi-partisan. Addressing ballast water may help prevent eggs and baby Asian carp from spreading into the Great Lakes through the ballast tanks of  barges. The president may not have had to address the problem of closing a canal. This would cause economic problems in his home state, which are minimal compared to the economic and permanent damage he is willing to risk for the rest of the country. Because network media dose not make an issue of this problem and will continue to pretend, by silence, regardless of what happens, that our president is not responsible, it is quite easy for this president to continue to only talk about preventing the dirty carbon emission in manufacturing as that can they can be associated with the partisan issue of oil. The change that we needed in 2008 to fix this problem, was started and passed (395-7) by the house of representatives and has since been ignored by the Senate and this administration,  Americans that care about our water should make sure that this administrations inaction on preventing the continued destruction of our water as the economy begins to recover and grow through the continued and growing importation of foreign goods is forever remembered as a missed opportunity to protect our country because of short term economics. If terrorist use this venue to attack us we should never allow it to be said &quot;who knew&quot; as we did in 2001.  Dose anyone think that the reason network TV dose not address these problems could be associated with the sponsors? cruise ships, Walmart, oil companies, Etc.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Administration ran on a platform to go green, but they seem to have a policy of only worrying about water restoration, not prevention of problems such as ballast water. Other than the commander and chiefs purposed two decade plan, drawn up by the Coast Guard that mirrors an international organization of foreign sea captains, foreign countries, and foreign companies who have a terrible track record, we have nothing. To address the polluted water trail and carbon footprint of international shipping moving fossil fuels and consumer goods, the president would need to be bi-partisan. Addressing ballast water may help prevent eggs and baby Asian carp from spreading into the Great Lakes through the ballast tanks of  barges. The president may not have had to address the problem of closing a canal. This would cause economic problems in his home state, which are minimal compared to the economic and permanent damage he is willing to risk for the rest of the country. Because network media dose not make an issue of this problem and will continue to pretend, by silence, regardless of what happens, that our president is not responsible, it is quite easy for this president to continue to only talk about preventing the dirty carbon emission in manufacturing as that can they can be associated with the partisan issue of oil. The change that we needed in 2008 to fix this problem, was started and passed (395-7) by the house of representatives and has since been ignored by the Senate and this administration,  Americans that care about our water should make sure that this administrations inaction on preventing the continued destruction of our water as the economy begins to recover and grow through the continued and growing importation of foreign goods is forever remembered as a missed opportunity to protect our country because of short term economics. If terrorist use this venue to attack us we should never allow it to be said &#8220;who knew&#8221; as we did in 2001.  Dose anyone think that the reason network TV dose not address these problems could be associated with the sponsors? cruise ships, Walmart, oil companies, Etc.?</p>
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		<title>By: green rebates &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Asian Carp Near Great Lakes: Are They So Bad?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 06:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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