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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://planetsave.com/2009/01/19/is-there-a-vegan-in-the-white-house-peta-rejoice/comment-page-1/#comment-66354</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an avid hunter, fisherman, and environmental conservationist that believes in global warming... and global cooling, (the cycle of water vapor and radiation from the sun... you know, that big yellow ball in the sky),  I am concerned about yet another crackpot appointment by BO.  You people actually think this Government cares about you?  They only care about your wallets... and distract you with junk science and pseudo-intellectualism that tugs on the heartstrings of your ideology.  They are using your &quot;causes&quot; to steal from you, and not correct the system that you believe oppresses you and the animals.  If you don&#039;t have the stones to train and quickly take an animal, field dress it, and cook it for your family... then you should not eat meat.  It&#039;s a choice... and most Americans are where they are because of personal choice.  This appointment will only complicate the legal system... and funnel more cash to the lawyers... and the politicians that are all lawyers like Scheister Obama.  Your &quot;causes&quot; will not be served... and you will be brought to your knees... and be begging for the $20 MILLION in Ham that your taxes bought and paid for.  Goodbye liberty... buy a gun, hunt your food, grow your food on the land... and enjoy true liberty until this &quot;Government&quot; takes it from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an avid hunter, fisherman, and environmental conservationist that believes in global warming&#8230; and global cooling, (the cycle of water vapor and radiation from the sun&#8230; you know, that big yellow ball in the sky),  I am concerned about yet another crackpot appointment by BO.  You people actually think this Government cares about you?  They only care about your wallets&#8230; and distract you with junk science and pseudo-intellectualism that tugs on the heartstrings of your ideology.  They are using your &#8220;causes&#8221; to steal from you, and not correct the system that you believe oppresses you and the animals.  If you don&#8217;t have the stones to train and quickly take an animal, field dress it, and cook it for your family&#8230; then you should not eat meat.  It&#8217;s a choice&#8230; and most Americans are where they are because of personal choice.  This appointment will only complicate the legal system&#8230; and funnel more cash to the lawyers&#8230; and the politicians that are all lawyers like Scheister Obama.  Your &#8220;causes&#8221; will not be served&#8230; and you will be brought to your knees&#8230; and be begging for the $20 MILLION in Ham that your taxes bought and paid for.  Goodbye liberty&#8230; buy a gun, hunt your food, grow your food on the land&#8230; and enjoy true liberty until this &#8220;Government&#8221; takes it from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Spurwing Plover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spurwing Plover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 13:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who has anything to do with PETA is igorant of what their realy doing PETA HAS KILLED 95% OF THE ANIMALS THEY HAVE ADOPTED AND CALL IT COMPASSION</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has anything to do with PETA is igorant of what their realy doing PETA HAS KILLED 95% OF THE ANIMALS THEY HAVE ADOPTED AND CALL IT COMPASSION</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of you guys are really out there.  You think animals have the same rights as humans do?  Are you serious?  The Bible even states that &quot;man was put on this earth to rule over all living things&quot; but yet you want to make animals equal to humans.  I suppose since that is in the Bible it most likely wont mean much to some of you.  You guys don&#039;t hunt but yet you want to take away one of my favorite past times.  What do you like to do?  What&#039;s your past time?  Let me know so that I can push my own agenda and take away your past time just because I don&#039;t agree with it.  What do I care, wont effect me any.  Have any of you fished or hunted before?  I would guess that most have not.  How can you talk like experts about something you have never experienced first hand?  Put your lattes down and leave your big cities and come out to the country.  You just might learn something.  As far as you animal extremists go, I&#039;m glad your around.  You guys look like a bunch of wackos to the general public and make defending my god given right to hunt so much easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you guys are really out there.  You think animals have the same rights as humans do?  Are you serious?  The Bible even states that &#8220;man was put on this earth to rule over all living things&#8221; but yet you want to make animals equal to humans.  I suppose since that is in the Bible it most likely wont mean much to some of you.  You guys don&#8217;t hunt but yet you want to take away one of my favorite past times.  What do you like to do?  What&#8217;s your past time?  Let me know so that I can push my own agenda and take away your past time just because I don&#8217;t agree with it.  What do I care, wont effect me any.  Have any of you fished or hunted before?  I would guess that most have not.  How can you talk like experts about something you have never experienced first hand?  Put your lattes down and leave your big cities and come out to the country.  You just might learn something.  As far as you animal extremists go, I&#8217;m glad your around.  You guys look like a bunch of wackos to the general public and make defending my god given right to hunt so much easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very encouraged by this news but can&#039;t understand Obama&#039;s views and proposed FOCO Freedom OF Choice. This proposed legislation allows a Mother the choice of on demand abortion anytime before birth. Now with late term abortion the child is aborted alive then the &quot;medical&quot; staff inserts a needle into the babies skull that contains poison. If the baby survives it is thrown into the medical waste pile to continue to suffer and die.

Don&#039;t get me wrong me and my family are vegan&#039;s and consider ourselves pro life with civil rights for all so when Obama talks civil rights it should be for all beings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very encouraged by this news but can&#8217;t understand Obama&#8217;s views and proposed FOCO Freedom OF Choice. This proposed legislation allows a Mother the choice of on demand abortion anytime before birth. Now with late term abortion the child is aborted alive then the &#8220;medical&#8221; staff inserts a needle into the babies skull that contains poison. If the baby survives it is thrown into the medical waste pile to continue to suffer and die.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong me and my family are vegan&#8217;s and consider ourselves pro life with civil rights for all so when Obama talks civil rights it should be for all beings.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Center for Consumer Freedom is run by a well-known lobbyest named Richard Berman.  Check out all of the front-groups he runs at http://bermanexposed.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Center for Consumer Freedom is run by a well-known lobbyest named Richard Berman.  Check out all of the front-groups he runs at <a href="http://bermanexposed.org/" rel="nofollow">http://bermanexposed.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pearson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is certainly a step in the right direction. We desperately need to work on changing the way we think and feel about the rest of the animal kingdom before we take ourselves out in the process. It’s truly a shame how some people can rely so much on a simple opinion, belief, habit, or out dated tradition and very little on thought, insight, and compassion. All beings suffer. That’s reality! Nevertheless, we’ve become so hardened and conditioned by the horrific way we treat animals (either directly or indirectly) that we don’t even think twice about the savageness of this behavior and the pain and suffering we cause to all those beneath us. For purely selfish reasons (and just because we have the ruthless power to do whatever we want to them) we’ve enslaved the whole animal kingdom so poorly, beneath all compassion for far too long. Any act of cruelty against a helpless creature viewed as “an inconvenient truth” is an unpardonable crime and a step back for humanity. Animals are at our mercy and this “attitude” that they are simply here for our pleasure is an extremely weak and pathetic reflection of who we are and it’s certainly a very narrow way of looking at the world around us.
  
I’d like to share the following quotes. Perhaps it’s a little too much but sometimes you have no choice.

“None so blind as those who will not see.” - Matthew Henry 

&quot;The highest realms of thought are impossible to reach without first attaining an understanding of compassion.&quot; - Socrates (469-399 B.C.)

&quot;The lower animals, like man, MANIFESTLY feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery.” - C. Darwin (It has nothing to do with intelligence!)

“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself…” - George Bernard Shaw, Writer, Nobel laureate 

“How can I teach your children gentleness and mercy to the weak, and reverence for life, which in its nakedness and excess, is still a gleam of God’s omnipotence, when by your laws, your actions and your speech, you contradict the very things I teach?” - Henry W. Longfellow 

“Hunting is not a sport. In a sport, both sides should know they&#039;re in the game.” - Paul Rodriguez

“There will be no justice as long as man will stand with a knife or with a gun and destroy those who are weaker than he is.” - Isaac Bashevis Singer, Nobel laureate 

“When a man wantonly destroys one of the works of man we call him a vandal.  When he destroys one of the works of God we call him a sportsman.” - Joseph Wood Krutch
“The world, we are told, was made especially for man-a presumption not supported by all the facts... Why should MAN value himself as more than a small part of the one great unit of creation”?  - John Muir, Naturalist and explorer (1838-1914)
“Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages.” - Thomas Edison

“Mankind&#039;s true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view), consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy: animals. And in this respect mankind has suffered a fundamental debacle, a debacle so fundamental that all others stem from it.” - Milan Kundera
“The basis of all animal rights should be the Golden Rule:  we should treat them as we would wish them to treat us, were any other species in our dominant position.” - Christine Stevens
&quot;The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men.&quot; - Alice Walker 

&quot;There will come a day when such men as myself will view the slaughter of innocent creatures as horrible a crime as the murder of his fellow man…a human being is a part of the whole, called by us the &#039;Universe&#039;, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separate from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures...” - A. Einstein, Nobel Prize 

“Because one species is more clever than another, does it give it the right to imprison or torture the less clever species? Does one exceptionally clever individual have a right to exploit the less clever individuals of his own species?...it is just like man&#039;s vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.” - M. Twain 

&quot;All beings tremble before violence. All fear death. All love life. See yourself in others. Then whom can you hurt? What harm can you do?&quot; - Buddha 

“The thinking man must oppose all cruel customs no matter how deeply rooted in tradition and surrounded by a halo. When we have a choice, we must avoid bringing torment and injury into the life of another, even the lowliest creature; to do so is to renounce our manhood and shoulder a guilt which nothing justifies…very little of the great cruelty shown by men can really be attributed to cruel instinct. Most of it comes from thoughtlessness or inherited habit...the time must come when inhumanity protected by custom and thoughtlessness will succumb before humanity championed by thought…” - Albert Schweitzer 

&quot;...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom…&quot; - Thomas Paine, Common Sense 

“The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence that it is not utterly absurd; indeed, in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more often likely to be foolish than sensible.” - Bertrand Russell

 “I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals, as surely as the savage tribes have left off eating each other.” - Henry D. Thoreau 

“Why should man expect his prayer for mercy to be heard by what is above him when he shows no mercy to what is under him?” - Pierre Troubetzkoy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is certainly a step in the right direction. We desperately need to work on changing the way we think and feel about the rest of the animal kingdom before we take ourselves out in the process. It’s truly a shame how some people can rely so much on a simple opinion, belief, habit, or out dated tradition and very little on thought, insight, and compassion. All beings suffer. That’s reality! Nevertheless, we’ve become so hardened and conditioned by the horrific way we treat animals (either directly or indirectly) that we don’t even think twice about the savageness of this behavior and the pain and suffering we cause to all those beneath us. For purely selfish reasons (and just because we have the ruthless power to do whatever we want to them) we’ve enslaved the whole animal kingdom so poorly, beneath all compassion for far too long. Any act of cruelty against a helpless creature viewed as “an inconvenient truth” is an unpardonable crime and a step back for humanity. Animals are at our mercy and this “attitude” that they are simply here for our pleasure is an extremely weak and pathetic reflection of who we are and it’s certainly a very narrow way of looking at the world around us.</p>
<p>I’d like to share the following quotes. Perhaps it’s a little too much but sometimes you have no choice.</p>
<p>“None so blind as those who will not see.” &#8211; Matthew Henry </p>
<p>&#8220;The highest realms of thought are impossible to reach without first attaining an understanding of compassion.&#8221; &#8211; Socrates (469-399 B.C.)</p>
<p>&#8220;The lower animals, like man, MANIFESTLY feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery.” &#8211; C. Darwin (It has nothing to do with intelligence!)</p>
<p>“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself…” &#8211; George Bernard Shaw, Writer, Nobel laureate </p>
<p>“How can I teach your children gentleness and mercy to the weak, and reverence for life, which in its nakedness and excess, is still a gleam of God’s omnipotence, when by your laws, your actions and your speech, you contradict the very things I teach?” &#8211; Henry W. Longfellow </p>
<p>“Hunting is not a sport. In a sport, both sides should know they&#8217;re in the game.” &#8211; Paul Rodriguez</p>
<p>“There will be no justice as long as man will stand with a knife or with a gun and destroy those who are weaker than he is.” &#8211; Isaac Bashevis Singer, Nobel laureate </p>
<p>“When a man wantonly destroys one of the works of man we call him a vandal.  When he destroys one of the works of God we call him a sportsman.” &#8211; Joseph Wood Krutch<br />
“The world, we are told, was made especially for man-a presumption not supported by all the facts&#8230; Why should MAN value himself as more than a small part of the one great unit of creation”?  &#8211; John Muir, Naturalist and explorer (1838-1914)<br />
“Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages.” &#8211; Thomas Edison</p>
<p>“Mankind&#8217;s true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view), consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy: animals. And in this respect mankind has suffered a fundamental debacle, a debacle so fundamental that all others stem from it.” &#8211; Milan Kundera<br />
“The basis of all animal rights should be the Golden Rule:  we should treat them as we would wish them to treat us, were any other species in our dominant position.” &#8211; Christine Stevens<br />
&#8220;The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men.&#8221; &#8211; Alice Walker </p>
<p>&#8220;There will come a day when such men as myself will view the slaughter of innocent creatures as horrible a crime as the murder of his fellow man…a human being is a part of the whole, called by us the &#8216;Universe&#8217;, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separate from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures&#8230;” &#8211; A. Einstein, Nobel Prize </p>
<p>“Because one species is more clever than another, does it give it the right to imprison or torture the less clever species? Does one exceptionally clever individual have a right to exploit the less clever individuals of his own species?&#8230;it is just like man&#8217;s vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.” &#8211; M. Twain </p>
<p>&#8220;All beings tremble before violence. All fear death. All love life. See yourself in others. Then whom can you hurt? What harm can you do?&#8221; &#8211; Buddha </p>
<p>“The thinking man must oppose all cruel customs no matter how deeply rooted in tradition and surrounded by a halo. When we have a choice, we must avoid bringing torment and injury into the life of another, even the lowliest creature; to do so is to renounce our manhood and shoulder a guilt which nothing justifies…very little of the great cruelty shown by men can really be attributed to cruel instinct. Most of it comes from thoughtlessness or inherited habit&#8230;the time must come when inhumanity protected by custom and thoughtlessness will succumb before humanity championed by thought…” &#8211; Albert Schweitzer </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom…&#8221; &#8211; Thomas Paine, Common Sense </p>
<p>“The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence that it is not utterly absurd; indeed, in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more often likely to be foolish than sensible.” &#8211; Bertrand Russell</p>
<p> “I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals, as surely as the savage tribes have left off eating each other.” &#8211; Henry D. Thoreau </p>
<p>“Why should man expect his prayer for mercy to be heard by what is above him when he shows no mercy to what is under him?” &#8211; Pierre Troubetzkoy</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Randolph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Randolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should lobby this public servant with information from the 2006 United Nations report that states that animal agriculture is urgent to address because it contributes MORE to global warming THAN ALL TRANSPORTATION.  According to their statistics, it causes about 18% of global warming and I think it is higher.  The loss of wetlands, prairies, biodiversity, water usage and water pollution, deforestation and cruelty are all staggering.  And to top that, we import millions of tons of carcasses from rainforest lands razed to grow cattle for this market - thus destroying old growth that sustains most of the remnants of diversity left on our planet.  The oceans are dying from carbon sink and overfishing, overtrashing - human arrogance (the species made in God&#039;s image?) is making havoc on earth - and I do not think we will survive alone on this planet for long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should lobby this public servant with information from the 2006 United Nations report that states that animal agriculture is urgent to address because it contributes MORE to global warming THAN ALL TRANSPORTATION.  According to their statistics, it causes about 18% of global warming and I think it is higher.  The loss of wetlands, prairies, biodiversity, water usage and water pollution, deforestation and cruelty are all staggering.  And to top that, we import millions of tons of carcasses from rainforest lands razed to grow cattle for this market &#8211; thus destroying old growth that sustains most of the remnants of diversity left on our planet.  The oceans are dying from carbon sink and overfishing, overtrashing &#8211; human arrogance (the species made in God&#8217;s image?) is making havoc on earth &#8211; and I do not think we will survive alone on this planet for long.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QUOTE:  &quot; The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.&quot;  Gandhi

&quot; Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.&quot;  Albert Einstein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QUOTE:  &#8221; The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.&#8221;  Gandhi</p>
<p>&#8221; Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.&#8221;  Albert Einstein</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peace and love to all. May all beings be happy.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael A. Weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael A. Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments, all. I&#039;m not used to comments on an animal rights story being so positive. Usually 2/3 of them are like those from Yellowjacket. Glad to see the support for such a controversial move. :)

-Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, all. I&#8217;m not used to comments on an animal rights story being so positive. Usually 2/3 of them are like those from Yellowjacket. Glad to see the support for such a controversial move. <img src='http://c1planetsavecom.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-Michael</p>
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